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Logan Sekulow: Tonight, a high stakes primary in Michigan could decide the future of the Democrat Party. Keeping you informed and engaged. Now, more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. It's Tuesday, August 4th. Welcome to the broadcast. Be a part of the show today by giving me a call at 1-800-684-3110. I don't know if this is something I've ever thought I would say. All eyes tonight are on the Michigan primary race for Senate. It's election night in Michigan. And for some reason it has taken over the mainstream news. Now there is a very, very real reason. And of course that is the real high stakes that come out of Michigan. Michigan is one of the top states that decides elections. It always feels like it's always one of those swing states. And at the same time, you have a very different Democrat options right now. You got a more traditional mainline Democrat. Again, some of them you probably would never agree with, but at least you weren't terrified of. And then you have on the other side what could be the radical wing of the party that is taking over. And that is what we're going to discuss a bit more today. Call us if you have a question or comment related to this at 1-800-684-3110. At the same time, we're going to be joined by Jeff Ballabon from ACLJ Jerusalem with the update of what's going on in Israel. And like I said, we're going to also give you some updates on some of the work of the ACLJ as we are in our impact match. And I want you to be a part of that today. That's at aclj.org. We're going to get into a lot more of that though throughout the next hour. So don't go anywhere. You got to join us through the next hour. Remember, we're live each and every day, 12:00 to 1:00 p.m. Eastern time. You can work your way back from there. So if you're listening to this later on, always join us live. You can do that at aclj.org, YouTube, Rumble. However you get your podcasts, we're available obviously immediately following the broadcast. So, Will, let's set the scene a little bit of what's going on in the state. If you look, if this is the state, right, the state of Michigan.
Will: That's right. That's what they say.
Logan Sekulow: I'm from, I'm not from anywhere.
Will: You're not from Michigan, correct.
Logan Sekulow: But if I was, I think somewhere around here.
Will: For those of you who are just listening to audio, Logan's holding up his hand and he's doing the classic, I'm from near the thumb.
Logan Sekulow: One of my friends had it tattooed.
Will: Really?
Logan Sekulow: Like I'm from here.
Will: That's right.
Logan Sekulow: Where it was. Yeah. Didn't last very long.
Will: We do have people on our staff that are from Michigan that are probably losing their minds at our explanation of that.
Logan Sekulow: Do we?
Will: But here's the, yeah.
Logan Sekulow: We didn't even have an office there, but, you know.
Will: Formerly.
Logan Sekulow: I'm pretty sure we still do.
Will: We do have this though. We have Haley Stevens, who's running against Abdul El-Sayed. Haley Stevens, current U.S. Congresswoman from Congress. And Abdul El-Sayed is a failed candidate for governor in the state of Michigan. He's also worked as a public health officer in Michigan. He, uh, he went to medical school, but never became a licensed physician, but still is Dr. El-Sayed. Uh, he is Egyptian background, but born and raised in Michigan. And what this is pitting against each other is Haley Stevens, who is endorsed by Governor Gretchen Whitmer, and the establishment, if you will. But it's not like anyone's ever accused Gretchen Whitmer of being this moderate centrist. Uh, and at the same time, you have Abdul El-Sayed, who is endorsed by the entirety of the squad, Bernie Sanders, uh, and the DSA, even though he claims to not be DSA. He is definitely running on all of their talking points.
Logan Sekulow: Democratic socialists.
Will: Of America. So, this is what it is. In a state that has become one of the most watched uh, national election swing states. It's a purple state. President Trump won it in 2024. If this individual, who is to the far left that is taking all the talking points of the Democrat socialist of America, Abdul El-Sayed, is to win this nomination tonight and then go on to potentially defeat a Republican in the general. That is the swing state of Michigan drawing a line in the sand about where the Democrat Party is today.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, I mean each one of these elections, I'd say post New York Mayor is really showing what the next couple years could hold. What do you think? Do you think we're up for a course correction? Or do you think embracing that extreme side of the Democrat Party is where things are headed? Are we getting more divided? Or are we coming to our senses here? Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Again, we just kicked off our impact match. Be a part of it today. All donations are doubled throughout the month of August. Talk about that and a bit more coming right up.
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Logan Sekulow: Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are lightening up, but they're available right now at 1-800-684-3110. Of course, to reset. We are talking about that Michigan primary. You may go, why does this matter to me? Well, some of you seem to understand the big impact of not just the state of Michigan. Will, which has always played a big role in deciding who the President of the United States is going to be, so we might as well check in a little early.
Will: Well, even more in recent years than even before, Michigan has become kind of what Ohio used to be. Ohio was kind of the, uh, so goes Ohio, so goes the nation as far as voting. Uh, but I think in in true Ohio, Michigan rivalry, I think that Michigan has taken over this rivalry when it comes to electoral politics, uh, because Ohio is pretty reliably red state now.
Logan Sekulow: Look, if you're pro Ohio or pro Michigan, let us know in the comments. I want one vote each. Ohio versus Michigan, because I'm staring at a couple of our production team that are both looking at me with evil eyes, trying to decide who's it. They both moved here though, so you know what?
Will: I'm literally trying to spark a a rivalry within the control room right now by talking about Ohio and Michigan in such terms.
Logan Sekulow: Why do that? The Ohio uh, guy though, is wearing a Nashville hat. And, uh, the Michigan guy, I think he's wearing a a Timberwolves hat? Is that what it looks like?
Will: No, that looks like a Milwaukee Bucks hat to me. Yeah. So a Wisconsin hat.
Logan Sekulow: Okay. Still, that doesn't count.
Will: Which has another interesting race going on, by the way.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, exactly. But moving on. Just let me know in the chat. Ohio or Michigan. You don't have to tell me why. Just just do it. Phone lines are open for you, Will. Go ahead and continue.
Will: That's right. So when you look though at at the policies, uh, El-Sayed, who failed against running for governor previously, uh, is now trying to become the U.S. Senator for Michigan. Here's the thing. He's trying to have it both ways when it comes to the socialist argument. Uh, he's trying to go old school and say, I'm not a socialist, I'm a capitalist. But here's all the things I I am for.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah.
Will: Medicare for all. Uh, taxing the rich to redistribute it to the lower income. Uh, all of the policies that go along with the DSA, uh, things like restructuring the Supreme Court, uh, changing the Electoral College, ending the filibuster. All of these things that go in line.
Logan Sekulow: Looks like he's just a good old fashioned politician liar.
Will: Right. And then you have Haley Stevens, who's.
Logan Sekulow: Who's an old fashioned.
Will: Whose policies may not be that different from him. Here's where it all boils down to, once again, and it's fascinating that to be a real socialist in in this day and age, you have to hate Israel.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah.
Will: You have to, because even during their debate.
Logan Sekulow: Lower case socialist, upper case socialist.
Will: I think both at this point. But even there in their debate, his entire line of attack against Haley Stevens, who once again, is supported by Gretchen Whitmer, who is the governor, is a relatively liked within the state of Michigan. Uh, and not a conservative by any measure. I mean, remember even some of the extreme things she did in support of of the Vice President who was running for President, Kamala Harris, during that entire election, uh, made a name for herself for being how far left she is. Obviously someone who wants to run for President in the future, that's no secret that Gretchen Whitmer has her eyes on the White House. And and because of Haley Stevens not being anti-Israel, and because she has received money, they the big APAC boogie man, she is somehow uh this evil person within the Democrat politics. Most of her policies are pretty left. I I even looking.
Logan Sekulow: This is Haley Stevens.
Will: Haley Stevens, the opponent of Abdul El-Sayed. When I even look at her hope agenda, which is very Barack Obama in in name, uh equitable federal investment, economic empowerment and access, safer communities. So that's one, because she says she wants fair and accountable policing.
Logan Sekulow: Safer communities? How dare she?
Will: No, I'm saying that's one that would would go away because of the the socialists that are trying to defund the police. But, uh, because she wants fair and accountable policing. Health and family stability, lowering cost, advanced health equity. She uses all the leftist buzzwords. There's nothing here in this candidate that says, oh, this is a centrist. This is someone who's really going to bring the party together in a blue state like Michigan. She has this foxy accent that's very Michigan. But Abdul El-Sayed has said that she is a non-starter. It is no way going to represent the people of Michigan. Why? Because of that tricky issue of her not being anti-Israel. Uh, Abdul El-Sayed also was famous for going after people like the senator, who would be his colleague, if he were to win, John Fetterman. He said, you if you put one ogre on a pike, the rest will go away. Meaning using terms of of violence in in obviously a metaphor, but referring to who could be his colleague from another Rust Belt State saying, uh we need to put him on a pike and calling him an ogre, and then getting the rest of people like him to go away. They want no one in their party who has an inkling of support for Israel. And that is when you see who he's aligned himself with, people like Hassan Piker, AOC, Bernie Sanders. All of these individuals that are so extreme in the biggest position being Israel, that somehow to be a socialist, to be a part of the Democrat socialist of America in America, you have to despise the Jewish state of Israel.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, I want to take your calls on this at 1-800-684-3110. We have people calling in from these states. We'll get some of them, uh, you know, taking care of, getting them up on the phone screeners if we can get them up quickly, because I'd love to hear if you are in Michigan, what you're thinking, what things are, because it's always different. You know, when you see the national news coverage of a local election, I feel like it's always different than if you're actually there. You're living a very different life. You're living a very different world because you're actually seeing what it means to be a person on the ground. You know, you know what your friends and neighbors are feeling, not just what a CNN or a Fox News pundit has decided that your state or your city, uh, is electing. So I'd love to hear from you if you are local in that. Again, phone lines are at 1-800-684-3110. A lot of you are calling in on many different topics. Let's go over ahead. Let's just take one real quick. Let's go to Michael in New Hampshire. Uh, go ahead.
Guest (Male): Yeah, I wanted to know, uh, if AOC were to be the standard bearer in 2028, and I don't think that's a fantastic notion to think that she might be. Um, and she were to become President, do you think she would commence military hostilities against Israel? And if she did, um, and she ordered strikes on say, Tel Aviv and Haifa, do you think that our military commanders would carry those strikes out?
Will: I don't believe that if AOC were the Democrat nominee and became President of the United States that she would take military action against Israel. I don't think that that is something that would be in the playbook.
Logan Sekulow: No, I don't think we're there yet.
Will: But but I do think that she would completely sever the relationship with Israel. It would become a situation where they are left out on their own.
Logan Sekulow: That could be. That's a cold war kind of thing.
Will: It's a it's a bad situation not just for, think about the safety of Israel, or even the national security of America. But even just the technological advancements that come out of the state of Israel. Even the healthcare advancements that come out of the state of Israel. All of these things, there are so many inventions that are fostered in that small state, uh, in the Middle East, that, uh, that the world would be a much worse off place if it weren't for even our technological relationship with the state of Israel.
Logan Sekulow: And I think there always needs to be a reminder too. And I and I say this a lot, but it's because I feel like we get very much caught almost like it's Putin in Russia. Is, you know, people are elected in Israel. There is a large group of people that do not like the Netanyahu administration. There's a very good chance the next time around their elections are held. Now it's different there. It's streamed differently. The sort of conservatives and liberals are very different in the sense of everyone has military time. There is those kind of kind of different mindset in Israel. But remember that a conservative and a liberal, there are plenty of people protesting in the streets that are Israeli against the Netanyahu administration, much like there are people here. It'd be like you said Donald Trump represents 100% of the voters, 100% of the citizens. It's not how it is. So do I think, Michael, that there'll be military action against Israel? No. But do I think there will be, as Will said, restrictions, cutoffs, things like that that could happen? Sure. I'm not I don't I don't think that's where we're headed. I mean, look, I think that's long-term where things could potentially be headed with some of these candidates. Absolutely. But I think in the short-term, do I think there'll be military action against Israel? I do not. But, you know, they again, like Will said, their technology is strong. They got a lot of strong people. There are a lot of you calling right now from Michigan. I'm going to ask you to just stay on hold for a little bit as we're going to go to break because I do want to hear from you. People I've already said they're voting or they've already voted today. I want to get how things are feeling. Do we have any poll numbers or anything in Michigan, where things are at?
Will: Yeah, we'll we'll pull those up. We got a minute and a half left here. We'll we'll bring that up in the next segment as well as what each of these candidates look like in a general election. But I had one more statement to that previous caller. Remember what the DSA, part of their platform is, is to defund the Pentagon. So, uh, even that concept of where where we within a rational world of how our government is structured, how the commander-in-chief operates, these individuals want to tear down our institutions. So even the question of, do you think there'd be military action against Israel, I think in a lot of ways, they want to eliminate one of our greatest assets as America, and that's our great military. They want to see a way to get rid of it and defund it.
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Logan Sekulow: A lot of calls coming in. A lot of people specifically from Michigan calling in as well. I want to make sure we get to them today, but also give you a little update on some of the work the ACLJ is doing. So we're going to get to that coming up. Will, did we want to go over anything before we take some of these calls?
Will: Yeah, I was going to bring up the polls because you asked about it in the last segment. So when you look at the current head-to-head polls between El-Sayed and Stevens, uh, she was actually leading early in July in a poll that had her up seven points. As the month moved on, it is completely flipped, according to the state polling, uh, in favor of El-Sayed, with him up an average across the polls when you look at the real clear politics average, an average of up 10.2%. That's 50.5 to 40.3 for Stevens. So that's a big gap. Now, state polling for primaries can be all over the map. It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be the the way that it pans out. But he has definitely gotten a lot of support behind him. Uh, when you see how many people, even the fight the oligarchy tour with Bernie Sanders paying him a visit, you have, uh, all of these names within the far left. That is who is gone there to campaign for him non-stop to try and get him across the finish line to be the nominee for the Democrats in this very purple state of Michigan. Then when you go and look onto the general election, Mike Rogers, longtime congressman is running for Senate there. Uh, he's been in the house for as long as I can remember. Uh, and he is already running he's running unopposed for the Republicans. So he will be the nominee. When you look at the average between El-Sayed and Rogers, they're effectively tied at 44.3 for Rogers to 44.0 for El-Sayed. So, a slight edge in the most three most recent polls, Rogers is ahead with El-Sayed in some of the ones back in June and May actually having a lead. Now, when you look at Rogers versus Stevens, the most recent polls, she's up. And in the average, she is up 1.7%. So very close races in each, depending on what a lot can happen between now and November. But if you were going with whom it seems the people that are being asked the question would be a better general election candidate, it's it's Haley Stevens, the more traditional and endorsed by the governor candidate. But this is a turning point, I think, for American politics. Because when you think about the candidates that have already won nominations that will go on to be in office, we've talked a lot of members of the House of Representatives. Yes, in New York City, three members of the DSA will end up being, uh, members of Congress in the next Congress because they are already in deep blue places. This is a statewide election in a very purple state, one that went for President Trump in the last election, one that he lost by razor thin margins in 2020. Like tens of thousands of votes.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah.
Will: And in 2016 he won. So, the very definition of a purple state. If they choose to go in the direction of an El-Sayed, and then in the general election were to pick him to be their senator, that is a turning point for the Democrat Party, not just in Michigan, across the entire country. Because it is no longer the Chuck Schumer, the Gretchen Whitmer, the the Kamala Harris Democrat Party anymore. It is effectively the DSA.
Logan Sekulow: Yeah, we got a lot of calls coming in about this. I want to take some of those. Let's go to Gary. I want to go straight from Michigan. Let's go to Gary in Michigan, line three.
Guest (Male): Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. How are you doing?
Logan Sekulow: Good man. Go ahead.
Guest (Male): Yeah, so well, a couple things. Uh, when I went in to vote this morning, uh, at about, I'm sorry, there's some kids yelling in the background if you can hear them, but I went in to vote about 9:00 a.m. and, uh, there was only 16 people that had voted at a regular poll. And, uh, when I signed in, I had to show my license, sign a form, and I signed and put my birth date down and some other information, but everything's done in pencil. You know, with the state we're in as far as fraud, it would seem like to me by now it would have to be pen and ink would be mandatory. So that's one observation. And, uh, the other thing with Al-Sayed, there's a lot of stuff in the media about that he can't beat Mike Cox. I'm just wondering if you guys have any insight as to maybe how many Republicans thought about crossing over and crossed over and voted for him thinking that he can't beat Mike Cox in the general election.
Will: Mike Rogers is who's running for the Republicans for that. The the interesting thing there, that's always kind of the, um, the theory of the the crossover voters in a primary to get the weaker candidate.
Logan Sekulow: If your if your state allows it or you're.
Will: Right, right. If there's an open primary, uh, you don't have to have a declared party. You can vote for any time you can vote for one.
Logan Sekulow: But one, and you pick.
Will: But you pick which one. Uh, Gary, I I I don't think in reality that pans out. It's something that's always talked about, but I don't think there's ever enough people that cross over just for the purpose of picking a weaker candidate.
Logan Sekulow: I'm not sure that statewide. I think there does happen in local elections or smaller elections where people go, you know what, this person has zero chance or something like that. And they will not sabotage an election, but they will at least get involved in a different way.
Will: But it is the the vast majority of voters that do end up going to the polls aren't aren't well thoughtful, I've been planning this to go vote individual. That's where the bulk of they call it low information voters. People that have a general idea of who they want to vote for or the policies they want to vote for and they go and vote for it. Unfortunately, I think there is a a very big rise in this draw to this DSA call. Uh, here's the problem that I see with a lot of it. Many people have been comparing it to kind of the T-Party movement of the Republicans uh, back in the 2010s, right? Uh, I don't see that parallel. Here's why. The T-Party Republicans were wanting to go back to the roots of the Constitution. T-Party stood in for taxed enough already. They wanted lower taxes, they wanted to secure first, second Amendment rights, they wanted to get back to the Bill of Rights for the people and make sure that big government was reigned in. That was the entire movement. This is the complete opposite. It it is so far left of the party. It is tear down every institution. Abolish the Senate. Pack the court or or abolish the Supreme Court. Do away with the way we select an executive. Uh, you go down the laundry list, it is completely removed from our constitutional framework. So it's not a fair analogy to ever go there and say, uh it's like, it's just like a T-Party movement. You saw how that worked out, like they didn't actually have a T-Party president, they didn't become a third party. The DSA, it was an organized group. The T-Party was a grassroots movement. The DSA is organized and they've been planning this a long time. And they're about to completely, uh, take over the DNC if if those that vote Democrat aren't careful.
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